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HDDVD Xbox 360 player smoked [blown capacitor]
posted by Kaneda – on Tue. 30.January 2018
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Bla bla bla
When HDDVD lost against Blu-ray, Amazon start to sell all in stock players and movies for a very low price. This is when I got my add-on HDDVD drive for about 20,-. I do not use often this drive because I do not own lot of HDDVDs, but is fun to put them out of the box and play some movies on it. The player itself has a really nice design and workmanship. Sure it is kind of annoying, that the XBOX does not have internal drive that supports HDDVD, but this way it even more unique, representing a failed format from the past.
What happened
Last time I used this drive was at least 5 years ago. And it worked perfectly! I did not expect any suprizes while switching it on. The drive was already connected with the DC power supply for about 1 min., when I noticed this "tsssssssss" noise comming out from the player. When I saw white smoke comming out from the rear of the player, I pulled the mains plug. I knew directly it was e-cap but why???
The problem
First I was assuming something is wrong with a DC power supply. I checked, it was ok (stable 12V DC). After opening the player itself it was clear that the e-cap was blown. Other components on the DC/DC PCB were fine. Means the e-cap was malfunctioning itself. Its a SANYO 1500uF/16V WF series 105° type. I checked the web for the same problem and found one result, where someone assumed that the capacitor might be a fake. I do not think it was a fake, because if I would fake an ecap, I would name it "Rubycon" or "NCC". I think it was a chemical defect caused by not using this player for a long period of time. |
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Just an e-cap malfunction
This one must be at least arround 10 years old and should still be ok. Eventually the layers inside this capacitor were getting low resistance connection and heated up the electrolyte until the vent opened and all this mess came out. Thats also explained, why it took about a minute to blow. If the capacitor was stressed by a higher voltage or reverse polarity (what could not be a case here), it will blow right away within a seconds. By the way, this yellow thing on the bottom of e-cap is not the electrolyte. Its a pretty ugly glue and it was hard to remove.
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The solution
The fact that this happened once, could also happened to other drives out there as well. Thats why I wanted to put this problem online, because the solution here is simple. You just replace the capacitor with a comparable one, thats it. At least in my case. But I think if same e-cap would malfunctioning again the worst that could happen it, that it could also blow the fuse. The other components should be ok.
In case of blown capacitors it is advisable not to wait long with replacement. The fluid that will came out of e-cap will damage the circuit board depending on how fine the copper traces are.
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| 13 comments to HDDVD Xbox 360 player smoked [blown capacitor] |
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| Frogger ~ on: 24.02.2018 at 16:40 |
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| | Grundgütiger !! Die teile gibt's noch? | |
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| Kaneda ~ on: 27.02.2018 at 09:16 |
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| | Jepp, ist ein schönes Stück Geschichte! | |
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| Microsoft rules! ~ on: 21.08.2018 at 21:35 |
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| | This happened to my new(unused) xbox 360 hd dvd player in couple of minutes of use.
I opened the case and the same capacitor was busted. Need to find a new capacitor. | |
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| Kaneda ~ on: 22.08.2018 at 09:11 |
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| | Yes, it does not matter if you used or not. Cap got old and dry after some years. They used not so good one. Player should still work after replacement. Take at least 1000uF/16V | |
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| KDallas ~ on: 09.02.2019 at 07:29 |
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| | This happened exactly the same way to mine a few minutes ago. At first I thought I'd gone and plugged in the wrong PSU adapter, but no - sure enough it's a PSC24W-120. I plugged in the USB cable first then power, and switched on at the socket. Within about 20 seconds there was smoke coming out. Haven't touched the drive in 6-8 years.
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| Kaneda ~ on: 10.02.2019 at 14:20 |
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| | As I thought, the same will happen to a lot of other drives. Please tell us later if you managed to get it work again after replacing the capacitor. | |
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| Rover ~ on: 18.11.2019 at 22:34 |
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| | Last used OK about 5 years ago. Last week the drive did not make a noise or smoke, it just lived for a few minutes and then drive motor stopped and could not eject HD DVD disc. So turned it off and found this site informative site. Sure enough the Sanyo 1500uF/16V was bulging and residue on side. Replaced with Panasonic EEUEB1C102 - 1000 µF, 16 V, EB. It's working again!!! But should I replace with a 15000µF cap? Will this cause damage over time if don't? | |
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| Kaneda ~ on: 19.11.2019 at 09:36 |
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| | This one died pretty quite :D I did not measured the ripple on that cap at all, so it is difficult to say how much the difference is between 1000µF and 1500µF. Smaller caps (body size) dry faster then bigger one, so if you want to use your HDDVD drive in 20years again, just put the bigger one in. 1000µF should do for now :) Thanks for sharing this information. It looks like this cap is the weakest spot of this drive. | |
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| Maciek ~ on: 04.03.2023 at 20:29 |
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| | Thanks for this post :) I recently bought a X360 HD DVD Player from CeX. When it came i connected player to an electric outlet and about one minute after i start playing movie, a smoke came out from the inside. About day later i bought a new capacitor. Today i replaced an old capacitor and the player work just fine :D | |
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| Tobias ~ on: 09.07.2023 at 00:38 |
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| | Just happened for my new out of the box never used drive too. I'm kinda new to the entire capacitor game. How long do I have to get it replaced? Is a week still fine? Or should I remove the capacitor as fast as possible and then put the new replacement in? Also has anyone a good link where to buy one, a capacitor in Europe? Would appreciate a answer | |
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| Kaneda ~ on: 10.07.2023 at 09:33 |
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| | Hi Tobias, I would say replace the cap within 1 month. And clean thoroughly the PCB with alcohol. If you from Germany, you can get el caps at https://www.conrad.de/ or https://www.reichelt.de/ | |
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| DarrylPyrope ~ on: 29.07.2023 at 13:55 |
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| | Many thanks for posting this, I just had this happen to me! Plugged in the player and next thing I knew smoke was billowing from the holes in the back. I have a new cap on the way and everything should be like new! Any suggestions on removing the glue? | |
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| Kaneda ~ on: 31.07.2023 at 09:13 |
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| | Hi Darryl, use scalpel or sharp thin knife to precut the glue close and alongside the pcb (be careful close to other smd components) then use hot fan to make it warm, just before you solder it out. | |
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